Mic positioning : amp

[Katau]

I've been experimenting with a lot of mic positionings on my amp. So far I've found my first sweet spot.

The amp is tilted up 20 degrees. The e609 mic is near the rim of the speaker, turned to the left at 45 degrees off axis. The MXL900 mic is about 6 feet away, 4 feet up, just to the right of the speaker axis (maybe 20 degrees off) pointed directly at the center of the speaker. This ambient micing provided some room reverberation.

Slightly mixing in the ambient mic (MXL900) gives the track some fullness and shape. The e609 signal is panned at about 11:00 and the MXL900 is panned about 3:00 on the board. This gives it a stereo sound.

Then I layed another track and switched the panning. I'm really happy with the results. A full rich sound that sits right in the mix.

I've been searching for months for the elusive sweet spot. Now I wanna keep looking for more. Just thought I'd share.

[PhantomLord]

post some clips!

[Katau]

Ok...ok...I should have thought of that. Remember this is only a test. :)

http://www.soundclick.us/fastkG/11/01/freemp3/davidkatauskas+guitartest2.mp3

Let me know if you hear the same thing that I'm hearing.

[Katau]

WOW...that was wide. After listening to it this morning again...eek.
Here is a version with only a single guitar track.
http://home.comcast.net/~katauskas/GT3.mp3
It sounded much better this morning at 5am :eek:

[Sage]

I was going to give it a listen, but soundclick gave me some attitude this morning.


So without hearing it, I can offer a couple of neat tricks that you might enjoy trying.

when you switch the panning and do the second track, try inserting 1/10th of a second into the second track -- it really thickens the sound and gives a great fullness -- it's almost the same as a reverb/echo/chorus combo but it sounds far more natural -- well, it is more natural as it's time induced.

Also, if you're really going for a sound -- and you have a good tuner, or a good pitch shifting plug in -- try tuning down 1 cent for the second track -- another great way to get a fuller sound.

[Katau]

Sage,
Thank for the attempt. I just checked it out myself...those turds moved the link.

Here's the double track:
http://home.comcast.net/~katauskas/GT2_D.mp3

Here the single track:
http://home.comcast.net/~katauskas/GT3.mp3

The double track is a little sloppy...didn't use a click track...I was just testing some mic placements.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Sage]

try a little more volume on the amp, and a little less gain on the mic -- that will get you closer to that chuggy metal sound I think you're after -- also, bring the ambient mic in a touch closer it's slap echo'ing a little -- although, try the volume first, that might push enough sound to the ambient mic to get over that tinny little slap echo (I think) I'm hearing
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granted, I'm using computer speakers so........take it wth a grain of salt.

[Katau]

Thanks Sage...I'll give that a try tonight.

[Keith]

Katau..is this the sound you are after?.http://www.soundclick.com/updateband/SongInfo.cfm?BandID=284701&Updated=2641566

[Katau]

Keith, thanks for the post, but that link will only work if I have Admin rights for that admin page. Do you have a regular User link I can try? Thanks in advance.

[dev139]

i use 3 mic's for recording a guitar .. sm57, old bassdrum mike, and a room mic (rhode nt1a) .. first find the sweetest speaker for the sm57 (or something alike, sehnheiser or so ..), bd mic in the back of the cab .. the room mic u have to swith in the room to get the best sound .. sm57 is placed straight in front of the speaker, dead on, at the distance the grill or cloth is/was ..

works fine if u know a bit bout those things ;)