Musician brotherhood? Relevant?

[Elemental]

I just wanted to run something past you guys to see what you think about this. Particularly you people in bands. My band Humanity Abandoned (www.humanityabandoned.com) played a show with some bands a few months ago. We met some really cool bands and made some great contacts. We really liked this band from another state who told us that if we could get them some more shows in my state, they would get us shows in their state.

So, a few months went by and I e-mailed them telling them I got them a gig in my state and that I could get them an on air interview with a local college radio station to promote their band. So we ended up playing the same show that I got them. When we got there I approached the band to say hi. One of the guys in the band said "Who are you"? I told him I was the guy that got them the show and was working on getting a radio interview. He said "Oh", turned around and they left!

Is this the trend in music today? I've had one or two other incidents like this before. Is this the trend in music today? Where is the brotherhood of helping each other out?

[Arc]

It's ignorance and arrogance that this comes down to. It's totally unnecessary.

[lyleman]

Wierd. I don't think it's a trend. Around here there is pretty decent comraderie - always trading gigs, loaning band members, etc.

Shrug it off, keep doing good deeds.

[socialmisfit]

around here alot of people are like that. it all seems to be stuck up kids who think they're the greatest thing that ever walked, and wont give anyone the time of day. all the bands hate each other because they think its just a whole big competition to be better than each other, and none of them are really any good anyway. they just do whatever it takes to get ahead. but in the end, i dont think those bands will last that long or ever get anywhere because you need lots of good contacts and lots of respect from people to make anything of yourself and your band in music.

[Tingly]

"...but in the end, i dont think those bands will last that long or ever get anywhere because you need lots of good contacts and lots of respect from people to make anything of yourself and your band in music."

Amen to that!

[Elemental]

Yeah, it's hard to want to keep helping bands when you've been taken advantage of like that but you guys are right. Making the contacts and such will only help my band in the end. It's a good lesson though to those out there just starting bands. When someone scratches your back make sure you scratch theirs in return.............or at least say "thank you".

[KujaSE]

Yeah, my buddys band is like screamo/metal right, its heavy, and there's this other band that's closer to pop punk/emo right, and for some reason they really wanted to play this metal show, so my buddys band who was playing in it got them on the bill, and after that night they've been *****.

At my friends cd release they came and filled the bathroom with flyers for THEIR show that night.

[GuitarDesperado]

That's just how a lot of people are now-a-days and probably will forever be when starting out or trying to get out, and socialmisfit basically hit the nail on the head with his statements.

In an old band I was in, we played a show, then this other band a few months later came around and the lead guitarist blew away our lead guitarist in skill, and this drove our lead guitarist crazy, so he basically named this other band our rivals. That we must be better than them, etc, but no one else ever said anything about it other than the fact the this new band was good.

Also, not to mention, around here if people are in a band and if you ask to just have a simple jam session with them, they are like: "Oh, sorry, I'm in a band already." Gets really irritating after a while.

[Rushfan2112]

That's weird. Around here, guys are really friendly. A friend of mine's band is good buddys with the Yankee Slickers, a great southern rock band. Nicest guys in the world. Once I start a band, we're gonna be like this "musicians brotherhood", and there's a few more bands that might "join".

[Vintage Picker]

That's what happens when kids don't learn manners and good behavior at home. Be glad you were reared in a manner that let you recognize rudeness. Some people wouldn't have noticed it, because they would have acted accordingly.

[Vash03]

That's how it is with my incident (dunno if you've read about it) but yeah there's this band that formed around the same time we did and they totally think theyre better than us already and they haven't even heard us play yet. They got a demo together and think they're the most awesome band to ever come out of my county. In all honesty they sound too much like staind to me but anyway..lol. What's the deal? I was hoping we could be buddy bands and helped eachother out and get gigs together but all they really care about is being better than everyone, it's really sickening. Its like people sell out before they even have 1 practice. Yeah I would still try to get some credit with the other bands around man, maybe you'll find some cool guys that won't be so stupid.

[Sir Kevin]

I havent had an actual occurance where they said or acted like they were better than my 'band' (just me and a pianist). But there is another group and I am good friends with all of the members and I did play a gig with them for the talent show. When it comes to music though, they don't say it but you can tell that they are thinking that they are above us. There music is good, but its too much like everything else, it sounds waaayy to generic punk. lol for example, the pianist and I, Steven, were playing around and I came up with this really freaking annoying, repetitive riff and we both went 'Heyyy that sounds like some of Tom's S***. hahah. And we don't have a complete band yet, all we really need is a drummer. And sure Thomas is a better guitarist than I, but he's not as solid. His playing seems to lack something, its all about speed and repetitive, one-note melodies. and if not one note sometimes he does power-chords.

Their band.... Stupid Fest? Stupid Fast?... not sure, seem to look down on us as a band, but as individual people they are nice, its just when they are as a group. And its mainly the two brothers, the drummer and the guitarist. The bassist is a great guy hes not all stuck up and punk as the other two. In my book punk is an insult. Anyway I felt this was an appropriate time and place to share this tale.

Rock On, Don't Punk Out,
Sir Kevin

[lyleman]

Humility is in short supply these days. I think my band is sounding pretty good, but when we audition someone we lay out the red carpet. Unless you're a national/worldwide act, you're just diddly-squat (translation - not amounting to much). I mean, come on, we mostly COVER other group's songs.

[Dr. Jimmy]

Well here in CT you know the deal, 8000 bands/20 bars to play in :mad: It used to be so much better back in the day.....

I just had something similar happen to me, I helped a band get a few gigs by sharing shows with us, they started booking gigs on their own without reciprocating (in fact they gave me attitude when I politely asked about maybe them booking a gig and hooking us up, and this was in a bar I got them into!). Now as far as I'm concerned they can go p.i.s.s. up a rope.

I'll still try to help out other bands, but hey it works both ways in this business.

[reissue]

Our local scene has been pretty selfish as long as I can remember, even the crowds are goofy IMO.

[AcousticShred]

I am also in a connecticut based band. I found lots of other friendly bands and venues to play at.

[ForeverWritten8]

this one band(two guys in particular) like one guy said earlier, the drummer and guitarist, have it way in for me, and they kicked me out of the band earlier for being too serious and now they want gigs and are all crazy about becoming huge, though the two are in separate bands now, so it's double trouble..lol...yea sometimes people in the music industry can be arses, but i mean that's kinda what you sign up for, and for me that was a good experience, cuz it makes me more thankful that i found a great bunch of guys to jam with all the time now and make wonderfully expressive music, so they would have been holding me back i guess, oh well, it'll all work out for the better in the end! cheers!:smile:

[scott powell]

I'm friendly to people i know. If we are doing a gig and someone comes in that i know can play or sing i'll invite them to get up and sing or play a few. but as far as gigs,its everyman for himself.Ihave a hard enough time keeping my band working to help anyone else. Now if we have a booking,and a club calls wanting us, i have about three bands i'll suggest,and if the situation arises on their end they do the same. we all still talk about each other though hahaahaha

[GuitarownzU]

HAHAHA brotherhood? There is no brotherhood...just alot of knives in backs.

[76Strat]

do it but only to an extent the nice guiy gets screwed i know cuz im usually the nice guy....

[76Strat]

dallas is knives flying for music though you cant be to nice around here we get screwed so often its unbelievable