Sry and soz

[Sir Fire Hydran]

What the hell? If you can't even be bothered to spell the word correctly, then how can you possibly actually be sorry? When I'm talking with someone, and doubly so when apologising, I think it a sign of respect to type properly, and when apologising, it seems to me that if you're too lazy to even put the effort into typing two extra letters, then you can't really be sorry. I mean, if you're too lazy to even show respect, then how can you mean what you're saying? It's just plain stupid. I for one don't see how anyone could accept an apology if the person making the apology was too lazy to even put enough effort into it to make it presentable.

Bah, I guess I'm just ranting.

But does anyone else think that an apology with the most fundamental word in the apology being lazily misspelt is an apology at all? It just seems too hollow to really count. I mean, some people, when making an apology, go to all the effort of writing a letter and posting it, or to buy a gift, but if you can't even put in the effort to spell the word 'sorry' correctly, then your apology is as good as meaningless.

Just my thoughts.

[fishndag]

Is "I Luv You" more hollow than "I Love You"...?
A person who chooses to spare letters whenever possible isn't incapable of sorrow...
That's his way of expressing it...
The sincerity can't be judged by 'sry'...
IMO

[Sir Fire Hydran]

Is "I Luv You" more hollow than "I Love You"...?
A person who chooses to spare letters whenever possible isn't incapable of sorrow...
That's his way of expressing it...
The sincerity can't be judged by 'sry'...
IMO

I wouldn't say it's the same thing. 'Luv' is a different way of expressing affection, and some would argue that it's cuter. Just saying "I love you" all the time gets pretty boring, and 'luv' is just a cute variation on that. It's cute, playful, and affectionate.

But when hearing an apology, I expect a certain formality about it (otherwise I can't take it seriously), and as such, whenever I apologise, I deliver said formality, to show that I don't take the thing lightly, and show that it is important. But if it isn't important enough for you to type a simple 'or', then I have to wonder what the person's attitude to it really is. When some people go through all the effort buy gifts or write letters, it's impossible to draw any sincerity from someone who can't even put the effort into typing two extra letters. It isn't even a second of extra effort. Someone who cannot at least make that extra quarter of a second worth of effort to add the extra 'or' clearly doesn't care enough to put the "effort" in.

[Jminor]

im sry u feel tht way :)

It's just a bi-product of internet and txt speak.. It's almost becoming a new written language, like shorthand.

You should be more concerned with the fact that an "apology" is being written to you through an almost anonymous, electronic medium and not spoken to you directly. I think that's where your thoughts of insincerity/disrespect should be based.

Our technology is changing our social structure... We must learn to adapt or get left behind.

[Hitman!]

What the hell? If you can't even be bothered to spell the word correctly, then how can you possibly actually be sorry? When I'm talking with someone, and doubly so when apologising, I think it a sign of respect to type properly, and when apologising, it seems to me that if you're too lazy to even put the effort into typing two extra letters, then you can't really be sorry. I mean, if you're too lazy to even show respect, then how can you mean what you're saying? It's just plain stupid. I for one don't see how anyone could accept an apology if the person making the apology was too lazy to even put enough effort into it to make it presentable.

Bah, I guess I'm just ranting.

But does anyone else think that an apology with the most fundamental word in the apology being lazily misspelt is an apology at all? It just seems too hollow to really count. I mean, some people, when making an apology, go to all the effort of writing a letter and posting it, or to buy a gift, but if you can't even put in the effort to spell the word 'sorry' correctly, then your apology is as good as meaningless.

Just my thoughts.

Wait a minute.... Are you telling me, you, Sir Fire Hydrant, is able to feel sorry, and even apologize????

That will keep me up at night...

:D

[Sir Fire Hydran]

Wait a minute.... Are you telling me, you, Sir Fire Hydrant, is able to feel sorry, and even apologize????

That will keep me up at night...

:D

Yeah I know! Shocking, eh?

[RubberSoul_Guy]

I think you've got too much free time on your hands if this is the sort of thing that makes you angry. :LMAO:

[Sir Fire Hydran]

I think you've got too much free time on your hands if this is the sort of thing that makes you angry. :LMAO:

If you read my post in the "Are You Stressed" thread, you'll know just how much free time I have.

[ScottRiley]

I hate 'txt spk' - but that's something I could go on for pages about.

In fact, if anyone is going to apologise to me then it should be to my face, you can't judge sincerity through typing really, so if someone is apologizing through text/IM/whatever then its probably over something stupid like 'im sry i called you a gh3y zard i was om'. If its something big then I'd appreciate an apology face-to-face.

If its an apology from someone who I can't see face-to-face (i.e. a randomer on the internet, or a random acquaintance I barely see) then if I ever get lame enough to complain about not receiving a sincere apology from someone I'm never likely to see who I can easily add to an ignore list...well...I'd be pretty damn lame.

[Semi-Hollowbody]

Is it hollow or semi-hollow???

[spoonbadger]

i totally agree hydrant.its really annoying having to talk to someone who constantly uses netspeak/1337, everything they say seems infuriatingly insincere and generic. every msn convo i have with some of my friends seems to take the following structure
me:"xxxxxx"
him: lol!
me"xxxx?,xxxx"
him: lol!
me"XXXXXXX"
him: l0l!!!

but you dont know the half of it till you have to be around people who actually use netspeak when talking. if i hear lol,zomg,roflmao,tbh or ownt spoken phonetically (roff-ull-mao) one more time im packing up my axe and going to live in an amish community!!!

[fishndag]

lolzerz...

[elguero]

If you read my post in the "Are You Stressed" thread, you'll know just how much free time I have.


:D :D :D Hey btw, i watched the first series of the x-files, are all the other seasons any better or as good or what? was gonna get some for christmas

And I feel the same way you do about txtn sometimes on my phone. If I did something real bad Ill spell out the word "sorry". Or someone also mentioned "love" and luv" being different...i usually say "luv" when im talking to girlfriends, but love as a more serious, family type word....

[Strat Rat]

Sorry is an action word to me.
I dont care how you spell it as long as you go out of your way to avoid offending again.
The word is just your verbalization of this intent.

[fishndag]

i usually say "luv" when im talking to girlfriends, but love as a more serious, family type word....

plural? damn playa....
:LMAO: :LMAO:

[elguero]

plural? damn playa....
:LMAO: :LMAO:

lol well I wouldnt say "playa", and I dont know how they do it over yonder in Israel, but here in the good ol U.S. they usually allow us 3 or more girlfriend before marrying :D

[elguero]

but you dont know the half of it till you have to be around people who actually use netspeak when talking. if i hear lol,zomg,roflmao,tbh or ownt spoken phonetically (roff-ull-mao) one more time im packing up my axe and going to live in an amish community!!!

Oh my god....if someone did that around me i'd probably have to knock the fire out of em...... if i was bigger than them

I think people like spoonbadger is talkn bout need a job, other than one sitting at a computer all day

[Sir Fire Hydran]

:D :D :D Hey btw, i watched the first series of the x-files, are all the other seasons any better or as good or what? was gonna get some for christmas

And I feel the same way you do about txtn sometimes on my phone. If I did something real bad Ill spell out the word "sorry". Or someone also mentioned "love" and luv" being different...i usually say "luv" when im talking to girlfriends, but love as a more serious, family type word....

X-Files gets great. Especially up to and including season 7. But then you have to watch seasons 8 and 9 to get proper closure. I love that show.

And I'll use 'love' when talking to my girlfriend in a more serious sense. Like telling her for the first time (though again, if doing that over a text medium, that's pretty sad). But I'll sometimes use 'luv', just as a cute reminder.

[elguero]

lol Sir Hydran, if you have to send her a "cute reminder" while you're away, clearly you're not showing it when you're around :D:D:D

[Sir Fire Hydran]

lol Sir Hydran, if you have to send her a "cute reminder" while you're away, clearly you're not showing it when you're around :D:D:D

On the contrary. I do tell her I love her several times per day. Things just don't feel right otherwise. Damn these long distance relationships! But that wasn't where my hatred for "sry" came from.

[elguero]

lol is she the kind that tells you you dont love her so you have to argue with her and crap, my recent ex was like that....she must've convinced me cuz i hate her now :D jk

[Sir Fire Hydran]

lol is she the kind that tells you you dont love her so you have to argue with her and crap, my recent ex was like that....she must've convinced me cuz i hate her now :D jk

Haha, nah. That was my ex. I remember having a conversation once, with me apologising to her (post breakup)...

"I'm sorry"
"No you're not"
"You're right! I'm not!" OWND

[elguero]

lol well looks like your txt talk thread played out so new topic



EX- GF RANTS !!!

[Sir Fire Hydran]

lol well looks like your txt talk thread played out so new topic



EX- GF RANTS !!!

Oh brilliant! I love those!

[elguero]

I'll start...... I just got through with this HOT girl...beautiful beautiful face and awesome body.... but i had trust issues cause shes was a drama-queen and the type that wanted every guy in the room to be checkin her out, and if not, shes gonna go over there with them, and show 'em some cleavage until they do notice her....


I hate the flucy now althought it was fun

[Sir Fire Hydran]

I'll start...... I just got through with this HOT girl...beautiful beautiful face and awesome body.... but i had trust issues cause shes was a drama-queen and the type that wanted every guy in the room to be checkin her out, and if not, shes gonna go over there with them, and show 'em some cleavage until they do notice her....


I hate the flucy now althought it was fun

Ahh, I couldn't go out with a girl like that. Such bad self-esteem issues. It would disagree with the fun of an ego.

[Mr. Boston]

Sure, a poorly typed apology on the internet seems a bit flimsy. But you've got to also ask yourself how hurt you REALLY are by a poorly spelled insult on the internet in the first place. Know what I mean?

The way I look at it, people who want to engage in that kind of text-speak only make fools of themselves- and if they're that foolish how much could they possibly insult a person like me to begin with?

[Sir Fire Hydran]

Sure, a poorly typed apology on the internet seems a bit flimsy. But you've got to also ask yourself how hurt you REALLY are by a poorly spelled insult on the internet in the first place. Know what I mean?

The way I look at it, people who want to engage in that kind of text-speak only make fools of themselves- and if they're that foolish how much could they possibly insult a person like me to begin with?

Well, as I see it, an e-mail is just the modern form of a letter. And a poorly written letter with spelling errors and the likes isn't the sort of thing you would want. I mean, I've written e-mails to acknowledge I've done something wrong before. I mean, sure, an apology in person is later expected, but an e-mail is good, because you can write out everything, and make sure you get it right. No stumbling, muttering, stammering, saying the wrong thing. It's like writing a letter. Everything is clearly laid out for you.

[Mr. Boston]

Well, as I see it, an e-mail is just the modern form of a letter. And a poorly written letter with spelling errors and the likes isn't the sort of thing you would want. I mean, I've written e-mails to acknowledge I've done something wrong before. I mean, sure, an apology in person is later expected, but an e-mail is good, because you can write out everything, and make sure you get it right. No stumbling, muttering, stammering, saying the wrong thing. It's like writing a letter. Everything is clearly laid out for you.

Oh I agree with you. As a matter of personal dignity, my feeling is that if someone deserves an apology from me, they deserve a REAL apology. If I've genuinely offended someone, I want the quality of my apology to reflect the depth of my remorse.

But I guess my point was that if someone online hits me with a half-arse insult like "Phish is the suxxxxorz," then a half-arse apology seems about right.

[Sir Fire Hydran]

Oh I agree with you. As a matter of personal dignity, my feeling is that if someone deserves an apology from me, they deserve a REAL apology. If I've genuinely offended someone, I want the quality of my apology to reflect the depth of my remorse.

But I guess my point was that if someone online hits me with a half-arse insult like "Phish is the suxxxxorz," then a half-arse apology seems about right.

Well, yeah. I wasn't talking about something like that. I mean more say you're talking online to a good friend, and for the purposes of this hypothetical, you're Jewish. But your friend doesn't know it. You and your friend are joking about, and, as a joke, your friend makes an anti-semetic comment. You take offence to this, even though you know your friend was joking. When you tell your friend that you're actually Jewish, and your friend apologises, would you really believe it if they just said "oh im sry"? Or would you expect something more like "oh I had no idea! I'm so sorry!". Which seems like the more sincere apology?

[Mr. Boston]

Well, yeah. I wasn't talking about something like that. I mean more say you're talking online to a good friend, and for the purposes of this hypothetical, you're Jewish. But your friend doesn't know it. You and your friend are joking about, and, as a joke, your friend makes an anti-semetic comment. You take offence to this, even though you know your friend was joking. When you tell your friend that you're actually Jewish, and your friend apologises, would you really believe it if they just said "oh im sry"? Or would you expect something more like "oh I had no idea! I'm so sorry!". Which seems like the more sincere apology?

Yeah, something like that deserves a much more sincere apology. What the friends response is REALLY saying is, "Hey, don't get mad at me chief," you know? I'm with you.

[Sir Fire Hydran]

Yeah, something like that deserves a much more sincere apology. What the friends response is REALLY saying is, "Hey, don't get mad at me chief," you know? I'm with you.

So whilst a joke like that might not warrant your friend dropping everything to drive over to your place to apologise to your face, it does warrant a decent and sincere apology, but an online one will suffice.

[elguero]

you ought to take the time to drive to their place if you decided to tell a racial joke before asking what nationality they are lol

[Sir Fire Hydran]

you ought to take the time to drive to their place if you decided to tell a racial joke before asking what nationality they are lol

It all depends. It might not be a racial joke. It might be a joke about anorexia, then you find out that the person you told the joke to was anorexic before. It happens.