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genereaux
February 21st, 2009, 05:23 PM
Hey folks, FINALLY finished mucking around trying to make a video; and here it is-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=remKeD2C7Zo
(mm, I guess I can't figure out how to embed it....)
I hope it's watchable. I would apologize for the low production quality, but then I started watching some other guitar tech vids on youtube and thought "hey, it's not THAT bad".

I hope it helps someone. I'm still working on 'Guitar Set-Up', so hopefully I can post that one in a day or two


sean
remKeD2C7Zo

genereaux
February 21st, 2009, 05:36 PM
And anyone who can 'how to' me on embedding- bring it on.......


sean

SteveNbr
February 21st, 2009, 05:37 PM
Sean,

youtube is showing that this vid is "PRIVATE"

it won't let me watch it!

genereaux
February 21st, 2009, 05:49 PM
HAZZAH!
It appears to have been embedded by some magical embedding fairy. Awesome.

Ok Steve, I 'un'privated it. sorry, I haven't really posted alot a video to the world. Yet



sean

Fendershredder
February 21st, 2009, 05:57 PM
I know how to change my strings, but it was a good watch regardless!

Cool.

SteveNbr
February 21st, 2009, 06:14 PM
Very nice, Mr. Sean.

Nice presence, nice editing, nice explanation the neck fear. Maybe I can overcome my neck fear now.

When I had my guitar set up, the tech didn't use the string tree on my MIM Strat....said it "didn't need it." I've been using the tree. Thoughts?

anywhoo, nice video... especially for a premier. (and i love the less than matinee price)

BKent
February 21st, 2009, 06:19 PM
G, that was excellent. Having done it myself for years, I learned a few things from that. "How much string" to wrap has always been a guessing game. I love using the next capstan down as a consistant reference.

As well as leaving the holes lined up, along the neck, it facilitates that measuring process. Adds unifomity to the change, I like it!

Just started running all six new strings through my Strat body, as opposed to one at a time when re-stringing.

Always went with a "minimal" wrap, but never thought of the speed at which you can pull a string off when breaking one live, nor sustain. I always thought (and this goes to the stretching aspect) that fewer winds would expedite the strings' "adjustment to it's environment" process.

I take my time when swapping them out, it's like bonding with the thing. :)

Lastly, and I hold tension the same way when I originally wind the new strings, how much should one be concerned with the wear on the nut when you are dragging, especially, the wound strings through it? I try to keep the string taught as long as I can, slightly above it, before really allowing it to abrase the nut.

Again, I thought that was excellent. I appreciate the time and effort, Gens. Looking forward to more, brother!

Keith
February 21st, 2009, 06:19 PM
Great vid Sean! I really hope it helps the new players out there:).

I have to say, if this is your first time doing this, massive kudo's bro!

Midwest Empty
February 21st, 2009, 06:22 PM
I can't wait for more. good stuff.

crank
February 23rd, 2009, 10:51 AM
Nice job on the video.

stratman50th
February 23rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
Nice job Sean!
I know how to string my guitar too, but it didn't keep me from watching it or appreciating the effort that went into it.
I still do my strings one at a time, not because of neck tension but so I don't get the strings confused! Yes, I've been doing it for many years but still take them out of the package one at a time. I even roll the old ones up and put them back in the packages so they don't explode in the trash can and become a family hazard! :D

albertbert
February 23rd, 2009, 05:24 PM
Good video. This is way better than the videos i had to look at when i was learning this stuff.

scott powell
February 23rd, 2009, 06:15 PM
VERY well put together vid Sean!
i wish i had acess to this when i forst started playing, it would have made my life MUCH easier!
great workshop area as well,are all of those guitars yours?

ANGRY PYGMY
February 24th, 2009, 06:07 AM
Great vid, Generaux..Thanks for the effort.
Looking forward to more "how to" vids you put together

FX
February 24th, 2009, 06:35 AM
Great job, Sean. Thanks for the tips. Very good production. So, let's have an encore!

fused
February 24th, 2009, 09:13 AM
Excellent job! Very thorough and some great tips.

fused

Jer
February 24th, 2009, 09:24 AM
Well done, looking forward to more.

DeeGeeCees
February 24th, 2009, 10:32 AM
Good stuff Sean, also it's always nice to place a face with the nick.

Montana Slim
February 25th, 2009, 10:23 AM
I haven't had a chance to watch this yet but did you say Guitar Setup Vid coming?

That would be greatly appreciated!

30x90
February 26th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Nice work. I use the same method for measuring the string length...going to the next post...but I cut the string excess off right away and feed the end just barely thru the post.

Let's talk about Fender Saf T Posts some time.I have a superior method for those.Guaranteed not to slip.

Also..I noticed you using a cordless screwdriver with a peg winder attachment..I use it all the time.We fly so much and detuning and retuning (15 guitars) takes way too long with a hand held peg winder.It's a very fast and smart way to get close...then do the rest by hand.

genereaux
February 26th, 2009, 09:05 AM
^^^^^If you want to shoot a Saf T post segment, go for it.....
I have ONE guitar ( a 74 Mustang bass) with those tuners, and had planned to include a snippet of that in the vid. But I just spaced it.

I'll try to find some other video to include it in............

sean

30x90
February 26th, 2009, 09:26 AM
^^^^^If you want to shoot a Saf T post segment, go for it....

No thanks, pardner...You got it down and besides that I wouldn't even know where to begin...

Here's my method, though.Let me know what you think if you try it.The guy who showed me said he learned it from Lindy Fralin...I dunno if he actually knew him, or if he read it someplace..Regardless, I've used it for a number of years.

On strats & teles I pull the string to the next post...e.g. low "E" I pull to the "A" post and cut the extra off.."A" to the "D" post...etc..
This way there's no excess to mess with and the length allows about two wraps.
On a fender saf t post I put the string end down into the hole in the center of the post.The first wrap goes around ONE side only of the Saf T Post and back thru the middle. Then on the next wrap I go around the whole post. This way the string has two 90degree angles on half the post and a whole wrap around the whole post.No slipping.This works best on higher strings.By the time you get to lower "A" and "E" the strings don't fit very well around the inside of the Saf T Post, so it's just regular wraps for those 2 strings.

On LPs and other guitars with 3 a side tuners I do the same thing for string length, then the string end goes thru the post and the first wrap goes over the top of the string that sticks out thru the post and the next wrap goes under the string. This forces the string to choke down on itself as it's tuned up to pitch and prevents slipping.
I just don't have time to do all that fancy loop de loop and knot tying I see on some gtrs. I need the strings to go on quick, be stable and come off quick.

Checking the length by going to the next post works very well but as string gauges change the distance changes slightly..It's not an EXACT science...experiment..I like to end up with two wraps around a post. Any more than that wastes time and allows more stretch and any less might not be stable.

crank
February 26th, 2009, 02:44 PM
I have a Schecter Strat with those "safety" posts. (didn't know they were called that.) I measure up 2 posts and cut. I end up with 2-3 wraps around the post.

jimiv
June 26th, 2009, 12:23 AM
Hey Gen.....nice job on the video, I agree with the phobia of allowing the tension to release on the neck while changing strings is unwaranted. Never bought into that. I would only add this, I have done the one overlap wind on the strings and then I've tried no overlap and honestly, I have never had a problem tuning with either method, so now I just simply wind. I think the initial bend when you wrap the post through the hole is sufficient. I honestly don't have any tuning problems.

genereaux
June 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM
I have done the one overlap wind on the strings and then I've tried no overlap and honestly, I have never had a problem tuning with either method, so now I just simply wind.
By 'overlap', are you referring to the first 'hand-wrap' that I do before turning the tuner head?
There's nothing fancy about it, it's just a 'manual' wind on the capstan versus an 'automatic' wind (by turning the head).
The purpose for it is to cinch, then hold tension around the post. Without it, as you're keeping the string under tension w/your right hand you MIGHT pull the string through the hole even despite the bend.
So, no; the step itself isn't crucial. But it IS critical to start (and keep) however many wraps you use as tightly wound around the post. This can also be accommodated by holding a finger over the bend as you start the wrap, but that sometimes doesn't work out very well for beginners.

All that being said, it's muscle memory for me and not a bad habit for beginners. Plus, it's a good way to help assure consistency when your trying to do 3,5 or 10 guitars in a day and still be quick about it.


Hey Gen.....nice job on the video,
Thank you much and thanx for watching....

sean

Marc C
June 27th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Nicely done, i love watching videos demonstrations. I liked the fast motion and the important thing that people dont realize is how important audio is for video clips. The only problems with the audio is one track (right) was used but thats no big deal. One thing i would say from a technical standpoint is to not start of with anything too loud for very first second of video, the reason is because people sometimes have the audio too loud so it is better to fade it in.

It did answer some questions for me and reminded me of two questions. One i will post here and the othe i will make a thread on.

When you pull your stings to stretch them i am just wondering if you cut into the nut and make the groove deeper or is this not the case? I see why it is useful because the strings will stretch out and go out of tune almost immediately but sometimes this may not be crucial. Not sure though.

genereaux
June 29th, 2009, 10:21 AM
Nicely done, i love watching videos demonstrations. I liked the fast motion and the important thing that people dont realize is how important audio is for video clips. The only problems with the audio is one track (right) was used but thats no big deal. One thing i would say from a technical standpoint is to not start of with anything too loud for very first second of video, the reason is because people sometimes have the audio too loud so it is better to fade it in..
Thank you. Both for watching, and for the critique.
This was my first foray into Sony Vegas. Not quite as fancy or streamlined as the Avid or Final Cuts of the world, It WAS affordable.
And above the learning curve, I was a little lazy and clearly didn't preview the 'final' edit. For which, I apologize again.
Turns out, I was using an XLR to 1/8th(Bal) Y adapter into the camera and computer. Voice over stuff went straight into the computer, but it turns out the Y was only feeding one input (Duh. I know...)- So, ooops.
There's a handy little 'combine audio' feature that I eventually discovered which alleviates that, so if you watch the 'Set-Up' video (the second one I shot/posted) the problem is gone. Granted, not on par with any audio post house, but better audio nonetheless.

For the NEXT video (Intonation 101), I think I'll use my recently aquired RE20 for the V/O stuff. I wonder how THAT will work out........


When you pull your stings to stretch them i am just wondering if you cut into the nut and make the groove deeper or is this not the case?
No. Certainly no more than your normal 'wear and tear' that you encounter simply by pulling the strings through the nut by turning the heads......


sean

moe
June 29th, 2009, 05:16 PM
Hey Generaux.

Great Vid! Thanks. Liked the part about measuring the string using the next post. Look forward to your next vid. I like the idea of a myth buster vid. Hope you can do that soon!

Moe

Plain G
July 7th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Great vid. The length measure to the next head is a beauty. I do one wrap over top then underneath with no string crossing. Thanks much.